{"id":1073,"date":"2011-11-28T16:58:55","date_gmt":"2011-11-29T00:58:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/?p=1073"},"modified":"2016-01-31T02:45:50","modified_gmt":"2016-01-31T02:45:50","slug":"system-parameters-vegas-style-type-or-instance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/system-parameters-vegas-style-type-or-instance\/","title":{"rendered":"System Parameters Vegas Style &#8211; Type or Instance?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Since both Gary and I are here in Las Vegas at Autodesk University, I thought a post with a little bit of &#8220;now you see it, now you don&#8217;t&#8221; magic would be appropriate.<\/p>\n<p>In an Electrical Equipment family there is a system parameter for Voltage. As a system parameter it cannot be modified in any way&mdash;when the parameter is selected, the &#8220;Modify&#8230;&#8221; button is greyed out. It&rsquo;s set as a <strong>type<\/strong> parameter, but let&rsquo;s say I need it to be an <strong>instance<\/strong> parameter in a particular situation. You can tell type and instance parameters apart in a Family Types dialog box by looking for the &#8220;(default)&#8221; text that follows all instance parameters. <\/p>\n<p>This is where the magic comes in. Pay attention to the trick or you might miss it. Now you see it as a type&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/System-Voltage-Parameter-as-a-Type.png\" alt=\"Family Types dialog displaying the Voltage parameter as a type\" title=\"System Voltage Parameter as a Type\" width=\"616\" height=\"419\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1074\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/System-Voltage-Parameter-as-a-Type.png 616w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/System-Voltage-Parameter-as-a-Type-300x204.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 616px) 100vw, 616px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>And now you don&rsquo;t!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/System-Voltage-Parameter-as-an-Instance.png\" alt=\"Family Types dialog displaying the Voltage parameter as a type\" title=\"System Voltage Parameter as an Instance\" width=\"616\" height=\"419\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1075\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/System-Voltage-Parameter-as-an-Instance.png 616w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/System-Voltage-Parameter-as-an-Instance-300x204.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 616px) 100vw, 616px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>There are many things you can do in Revit that are not standard. Last night I was talking with Steve Stafford here at AU and discussing with him how some of these non-standard ways to achieve a result are too much of a hack to rely on (e.g. having connectors appear and disappear at will &mdash; oh yes, you can do that!). Then there are others, like the one being shown here, that I feel more comfortable using when creating families. They are workarounds more than hacks, and as such I give them a longer shelf life.<\/p>\n<p>I was doing some consulting in Kuwait a little over a year ago when I was asked about doing just this kind of workaround in a family, where the best workflow would be achieved by having the Voltage parameter as an instance rather than a type. I managed to pull it off as I was complaining to Gary Ross (then at Autodesk) about this particular limitation. I found it more of a user interface limitation rather than an intended feature of Revit.<\/p>\n<p>So how do you do this trick? Luckily you don&rsquo;t have to be a magician. Open your Revit Electrical Equipment family, with your Voltage parameter set to type. Make sure you initialize the parameter with some value if none is there. Change the family&#8217;s category to something else, where Voltage is not a system parameter, for example Electrical Devices. Now your Voltage parameter is no longer a system parameter, so you can change it from being a type parameter to a system parameter. Once this is done, set the family category back to Electrical Equipment and you are done!<\/p>\n<p>There are a few more things regarding this workaround that I&rsquo;ll write about in a follow up post. In the meantime, I hope you find this little trick to be of use, and if you are at AU and would like to have a chat or meet for a drink, drop me a line.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since both Gary and I are here in Las Vegas at Autodesk University, I thought a post with a little bit of &#8220;now you see it, now you don&#8217;t&#8221; magic would be appropriate. In an Electrical Equipment family there is a system parameter for Voltage. As a system parameter it cannot be modified in any &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/system-parameters-vegas-style-type-or-instance\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;System Parameters Vegas Style &#8211; Type or Instance?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[5,6],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v18.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>System Parameter Vegas Style - Type or Instance?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Can you change a system parameter (i.e. a built-in-parameter) from being a type parameter to an instance parameter or viceversa? 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