{"id":844,"date":"2011-08-01T06:52:54","date_gmt":"2011-08-01T13:52:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/?p=844"},"modified":"2016-01-31T02:57:03","modified_gmt":"2016-01-31T02:57:03","slug":"offset-parameters-for-plan-symbols-part-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/offset-parameters-for-plan-symbols-part-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Offset Parameters for Plan Symbols \u2013 Part 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is an update to the two previous eponymous posts that adds a small but elegant improvement. The idea comes entirely from Bryan Caudill, Electrical CAD \/ Revit Leader at Cannon Design.<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Offset Parameters for Plan Symbols \u2013 Part 2\" href=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/2011\/06\/09\/offset-parameter-for-overlapping-plan-symbols-2\/\">Earlier<\/a> I detailed how a length parameter, Plan Symbol Vertical Offset, can shift a symbol away from a wall. This helps avoid symbols overlapping in plan view when two objects in the model sit on top of each other, e.g. a receptacle (socket) and a light switch, without having to move any 3D geometry.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-845 alignleft\" title=\"Overlapping symbols in plan view\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.07.09.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"584\" height=\"245\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.07.09.png 584w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.07.09-300x126.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-846 alignleft\" title=\"Shifted symbols in plan view\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.05.58.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"584\" height=\"245\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.05.58.png 584w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.05.58-300x126.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>As shown in the image above, the parameter\u2019s length value represents the distance the symbol will shift in paper space. If we don\u2019t know the exact dimensions of the symbol, this might require some trial and error to get right. And if we have more than two symbols, we\u2019ll have to do some arithmetic to make sure that all the symbols are evenly spaced.<\/p>\n<p>With Bryan\u2019s improvement, we can simply set the order of the symbols with values like 1, 2 and 3, as shown in the images below, in order to achieve a cleanly spaced offset.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-847\" title=\"Location parameter set to 1 - first symbol\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.53.36.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"578\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.53.36.png 578w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.53.36-300x156.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 578px) 100vw, 578px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-848\" title=\"Location parameter set to 2 - second symbol\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.54.44.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"578\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.54.44.png 578w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.54.44-300x156.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 578px) 100vw, 578px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-849\" title=\"Location parameter set to 3 - third symbol\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.55.23.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"578\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.55.23.png 578w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.55.23-300x156.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 578px) 100vw, 578px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>What follows is a technical explanation on how to implement this technique. There is no video this time, but if you had a look at the previous posts and follow these instructions there should be no problem to get it working.<\/p>\n<p>First let\u2019s add a new parameter to the host family and call it Plan Symbol Vertical Location and make it a NUMBER. Then set its value to 1.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-850\" style=\"position: relative; margin-left: 40px;\" title=\"Add new parameter to control vertical shift\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.32.53.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"419\" height=\"205\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.32.53.png 419w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.32.53-300x147.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 419px) 100vw, 419px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Next let\u2019s edit the nested symbol family and change the old Plan Symbol Vertical Offset and call it just Vertical Offset (I also changed the Group from Constraints to Other). Then add the following formula to it:<\/p>\n<p><code>(Plan Symbol Vertical Location - 1) * [symbol\u2019s height]<\/code><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-851\" style=\"position: relative; margin-left: 80px;\" title=\"Modify previous parameters\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.30.43.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"330\" height=\"62\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.30.43.png 330w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.30.43-300x56.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 330px) 100vw, 330px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-852\" style=\"position: relative; margin-left: 25px;\" title=\"and name the parameter just Vertical Offset\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.27.35.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"466\" height=\"38\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.27.35.png 466w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.27.35-300x24.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 466px) 100vw, 466px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>We will end up with the parameters and formulas shown below.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-853\" style=\"position: relative;\" title=\"The new parameters and the renamed parameters with their formulas\" src=\"http:\/\/www.andekan.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.38.02.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"568\" height=\"138\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.38.02.png 568w, https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/Screen-shot-2011-07-30-at-14.38.02-300x73.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 568px) 100vw, 568px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Next we will need to create two parameters in the host family, i.e. Plan Symbol Vertical Location and Plan Symbol Horizontal Location, and delete the old parameters (Plan Symbol Vertical Offset and Plan Symbol Horizontal Offset).<\/p>\n<p>Finally, insert the symbol family back into the host family, associate its two Plan Symbol Location parameters to those of the host family, and we are done. Now we can just plug in a sequence of integer values to our overlapping symbols\u2019 Offset parameters \u2013 1 and 2 if we have two symbols, or 1, 2, 3, and 4 if we have four symbols, etc. \u2013 and generate a neatly spaced row (horizontal offset) or column (vertical offset) of our symbols in plan view.<\/p>\n<p>There is one caveat. As it turns out, not all symbols have the same dimensions, so in the formula shown above, where it says [symbol\u2019s height], you should make use of the most common height within a library of symbols and then use the same for the width. That will allow you to enter integer numbers for the Offset parameter most of the time, and only now and again require tweaking the parameter to have a value with decimals.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is an update to the two previous eponymous posts that adds a small but elegant improvement. The idea comes entirely from Bryan Caudill, Electrical CAD \/ Revit Leader at Cannon Design. Earlier I detailed how a length parameter, Plan Symbol Vertical Offset, can shift a symbol away from a wall. This helps avoid symbols &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/offset-parameters-for-plan-symbols-part-3\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Offset Parameters for Plan Symbols \u2013 Part 3&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[5,6],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v18.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Offset Parameters for Plan Symbols \u2013 Part 3 - Andekan \u00bb Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"With Bryan\u2019s improvement, we can set the order of the symbols with values like 1, 2 and 3 in order to achieve a cleanly spaced offset.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.andekan.com\/blog\/offset-parameters-for-plan-symbols-part-3\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Offset Parameters for Plan Symbols \u2013 Part 3 - 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